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Grant, Kelly
From:Grant, Kelly
Sent:Friday, October 4, 2019 8:36 AM
To:'Christopher Haley'
Subject:RE: Violation Notice 190 Blue Rock Rd
Hi Chris
October 31 is fine.
Thanks
Kelly Grant
Conservation Administrator
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext 1288
kgrant@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Christopher Haley \[mailto:chaley100@gmail.com\]
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 7:05 AM
To: Grant, Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Violation Notice 190 Blue Rock Rd
Hi Kelly,
I have hired Mark Burgess to assist me in getting my dock back under compliance. He needs to take some
measurements before the floats are removed this season. Can you give me an extension on the timeline to
remove the floats so that he can take the necessary measurements. He needs to have the tide and wind and a
couple of other factors line up to take the measurements.
Would you be willing to give me to the end of the month to make sure he can get out there?
Best,
Chris
617 690 9554
On Sep 30, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Grant, Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Hi Chris
The Commission does not generally approve variances for oversized floats. As suggested
previously, they may support the extension of the pier out a little further to replace the float in shallow
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water and have smaller floats at the end of that. Mark should be able to help you come up with a
solution that will be acceptable.
Thanks
Kelly Grant
Conservation Administrator
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext 1288
kgrant@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Christopher Haley \[mailto:chaley100@gmail.com\]
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 7:54 AM
To: Grant, Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Violation Notice 190 Blue Rock Rd
Hi Kelly,
I spoke to Mark Burgess and he said that there is a 0% chance of me getting a variance for any
floating dock over 200 sq ft. I mentioned to him that you suggested I submit my plan to the
Commission for a Vote. Has the current Commission allowed a variance for any dock over 200
sq ft built in 1987 or later? I just don’t want to spend a lot of time on this for something that has
until this point had a 0% passing rate.
Just looking for some honest feedback here. I have very little spare time between my job and
caring for my daughter and grandmother, one who just came into this world and one who is
about to leave it.
Thank you for your time and honest feedback.
Chris
617 690 9554
On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Grant, Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Hi Chris
You will need to present this alternative to Commission for them to vote on. If you
would like to document this with a written request, image as below and marked up plan
showing proposed configuration, I will add it to the agenda. I will need 8 copies and an
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electronic copy. If you can have it to me by Oct 3 I can add it to the October 17
meeting.
Following the meeting, if the Commission is supportive, you will need a new plan to be
approved and held on file. They may require some kind of filing to make the
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determination official. That will be clarified at the meeting. You will also need to
update your Chapter 91 license held by the state.
Thanks
Kelly Grant
Conservation Administrator
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext 1288
kgrant@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Christopher Haley \[mailto:chaley100@gmail.com\]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 10:38 AM
To: Grant, Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Violation Notice 190 Blue Rock Rd
Kelly,
Just trying to get a feel for my options here. Jennifer at Cape Cod Docks is saying
the cost to move the pilings and build new floats would be in the thousands. Is
there any way I could remove the float in the attached picture and leave the
configuration as is? This would remove the need for repositioning the pilings and
building new floats. The square footage would be around 288sq ft (I’m guessing),
which I know is over the 200sq ft you mentioned. Is there any way since this is
all in place and has been for at least 12 years I could get an exception to the 200sq
ft rule and make up for it in some other conservation related way, which I’d be
more than happy to do.
Certainly feel free to give me a call. I’d come in and personally visit but can’t
take a day off of work right now and I’m guessing your office is closed on
weekends.
Best,
Chris
617 690 9554
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On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Christopher Haley
<chaley100@gmail.com> wrote:
+ Jennifer, Cape Cod Docks
Kelly,
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Jennifer (cc:d) at Cape Cod Docks is going to put me at the front of
the list for removing the docks this season. She said it could be
done as early as next week.
Regarding making sure all permits are in order, I unfortunately
assumed it all was as the Yarmouth Conservation Commission and
the Massachusetts DEP were at the property extensively in 2010
(see attached documents). They even approved alterations to the
dock (new sitting area over the water), so I naturally figured all
was in order. Almost feels like buying a used car and then being
told that you are responsible for an accident the previous owner
had 10+ years ago.
I’m just curious, how could the conservation commission approve
work on the dock in 2010 but have not issued a violation for the
configuration back then? The pilings would have been in the water
and pretty obvious I would think?
Best,
Chris
<DEP Approval.pdf>
<83-1881 - Landscape Plan002.pdf>
On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:55 AM, Grant, Kelly
<KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Hi Chris
I took some measurements from the aerials and looked
again at the file. It looks like the length of the structure
is OK and may be under what was permitted. The two
in-line floats also appear to be smaller than the
permitted area and less than maximum of 200 sqft. This
means you could reconfigure the floats and add some
additional float area to that originally permitted. You
currently have 384 square feet of float. You were
permitted for 144 sqft and the regulatory limit is
200sqft.
I suggest you speak with someone about options for
reconfiguring and reducing the float size. You could
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also possibly extend the length of the pier a little to
reduce the distance the floats need to reach.
I understand that this is unsettling for you. With
waterfront property it is important to confirm all the
permits and licenses for the property are in order.
Having said that, the Commission is always willing to
work with homeowners to find a resolution to these
matters. If the floats are out you are all set for
now. You have the off-season to resolve the matter
before the spring.
Thanks
Kelly Grant
Conservation Administrator
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext 1288
kgrant@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Christopher Haley
\[mailto:chaley100@gmail.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 5:11 PM
To: Grant, Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Violation Notice 190 Blue Rock Rd
Kelly,
Cape Cod docks removes the docks for me every
season. They pull all the docks out.
So I’m really nervous at this point as I went way
over budget for the house (spent over
$1mil) because of the doc and the ability to have a
boat to take my family tubing and fishing. Its
something I was fortunate enough to do as a kid and
I wanted to pass that on. The configuration you
showed me would mean there wouldn’t be enough
water at the end of the dock for a boat at low tide.
To be honest, I’m literally sick to my stomach at
this point. Is this something I can work with you on
to resolve? Does the previous owner have any
liability? Does the fact that these docks have been
in place for over 10 years mean anything? Is there
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anything I can do from a conservation perspective
in the surrounding area (additional trees, plantings,
donation to conservation fund) that wouldn’t
involve digging up the current pilings which I’m
guessing is detrimental to the surrounding area.
I’m a good person that doesn’t break the rules so
this all makes me very uncomfortable. How are
these things usually resolved? Do I hire someone to
work with you to find an amenable solution?
Best,
Chris
On Sep 24, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Grant,
Kelly <KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us>
wrote:
Hi Chris
The aerial images show a new dock
somewhere between 2005 and
2008/09. The plans from a newer
permit for the property provide a
Chapter 91 license number DEQE No
1770. If the dock was reconfigured this
license plan should have been updated
at the same time. Mark Burgess of
Shorefront Consulting worked with the
property owner on that project and
may be able to help.
Sometimes work is done on a dock
without the required prior
approvals. Are you scheduled to have
the floats removed for the season? If
so, who is doing that work for you? If
the non-compliant floats are removed,
you will then have time in the off
season to resolve the discrepancy.
Thanks
Kelly Grant
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Conservation Administrator
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext 1288
kgrant@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Christopher Haley
\[mailto:chaley100@gmail.com\]
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019
4:04 PM
To: Grant, Kelly
<KGrant@yarmouth.ma.us>
Subject: Re: Violation Notice 190 Blue
Rock Rd
Hello Kelly,
Thanks for this information.
When I purchased the house in 2017,
the docs were in the current
configuration. All the posts look like
they have been in place for a very
long time. I can’t imagine that the
far posts would have been dug
without some sort of approval. I’m
sure your team can look at them and
see that they are not new and have
been in place for quite some time.
I don’t live at the house full time (its
a summer home) and I honestly have
no idea where to even begin with all
this. I can’t imagine any dock
company would put posts into the
river on a whim without approved
plans.
How do I go about finding out who
put the docks in? I’m sure they
would have the plans.
Looking to help in any way that I can
but this way over my head and I
don’t even know where to begin.
Best Regards,
Chris Haley
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On Sep 24, 2019, at
3:50 PM, Grant, Kelly
<KGrant@yarmouth.
ma.us> wrote:
Hi Chris
The violation notice is
issued for the oversized
float configuration. The
licensed and permitted
plan shows 2 floats at 4’
x 18’ each (see
attached). There are
two additional floats
currently at 24x6’
and 20x4’.
If you have permit
documents for the
additional floats, please
forward them to me. I
have check on file at my
end and have nothing
further with regard to
the floats.
Thanks
Kelly Grant
Conservation
Administrator
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext
1288
kgrant@yarmouth.ma
.us
From: Christopher
Haley
\[mailto:chaley100@gm
ail.com\]
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Sent: Friday, September
20, 2019 10:23 AM
To: Grant, Kelly
<KGrant@yarmouth.ma
.us>
Subject: Violation
Notice 190 Blue Rock
Rd
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Hi Kelly,
I am writing in
regards to the
attached Violation. I
believe one of my
renters put something
on the dock so their
dog could get in and
out of the water. It
has been removed.
Let me know if you
require anything else
from me.
Best,
Chris
617 690 9554
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