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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAdditional Deed Research 50 Park AveSherman, Lisa From: Bob Kelley <bk.bassriver@gmaiLcom> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:19 PM To: Sherman, Lisa Subject: RE: 50 Park Attention!: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless you are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. am glad you saw the same as I did. Like 181-183 River, houses had worth and structures were noted. It almost makes me think that the house may have been leased early on, not owned, with the land owner selling only the land. This is early for a residential development and I know most folks in Yarmouth did not own their own homes, but rented or leased. It is odd that no structures are mentioned in these deeds. Also, the survey done in 1973 does not show a building either, strange. This is why I would love to see where the 1910 date came from. Regards, Bob From: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 2:05 PM To: 'Bob Kelley' <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Subject: RE: 50 Park When I was reading through the deed search you did, I saw that all the notations refer to a "plan of land" or a similar reference, but structures aren't noted until the 2008 and 2020 sales. Is that the way most older deeds are recorded, mentioning only the parcel of land, and not including a mention of any building on the plot of land? Very interesting! Thanks Bob, Lisa From: Bob Kelley [mailto:bk.bassriver@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:22 PM To: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park Attention!: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless you are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. 1 Thanks Lisa for the clarification. I did not seem to see that part and assumed the new foundation and architecture meant a totally new structure. I don't have any problem with what they are proposing. I am curious about the date of build. The deed in 1911 conveys a much larger parcel then what exists today, with no structure showing on that property. I would love to see some evidence of this, not that it would change the outcome. In January 1911 a "Plan of Land" to be conveyed by William F. Makepeace to Bay View Cranberry Company. (BCRD, Plan Bk. 9:61) see attachment 2. Note: see deed dated April 1923. This plan corresponds to the dimensions of that deed. Regards, Bob From. Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:00 PM To: 'Bob Kelley' <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park Ce This is not a demo; they plan to carefully lift the house and move it 16 feet back as approved by the Conservation Commission onto a new foundation, and as you noted, make other changes in the interest of Conservation as well. The plan is to keep the first floor footprint and renovate it, and upgrade and renovate the second floor. They don't like what they call the current "Lego" structure; they want more of a Cape look which they feel is more historically accurate, so the majority of the alterations will be to the second floor. There will be substantial change to the second floor, which is reflected in the elevation they shared. Hope that helps Lisa From: Bob Kelley [mailto:bk.bassriver@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:50 PM To: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park 2 Sherman, Lisa From: Bob Kelley <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:22 PM To: Sherman, Lisa Subject: RE: 50 Park Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Flagged Attention?: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless You are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the Sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. Thanks Lisa for the clarification. I did not seem to see that part and assumed the new foundation and architecture meant a totally new structure. I don't have any problem with what they are proposing. I am curious about the date of build. The deed in 1911 conveys a much larger parcel then what exists today, with no structure showing on that property. I would love to see some evidence of this, not that it would change the outcome. In January 1911 a "Plan of Land" to be conveyed by William F. Makepeace to Bay View Cranberry Company. (BCRD, Plan Bk. 9:61) see attachment 2. Note: see deed dated April 1923. This plan corresponds to the dimensions of that deed. Regards, Bob From: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:00 PM To: 'Bob Kelley' <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park This is not a demo; they plan to carefully lift the house and move it 16 feet back as approved by the Conservation Commission onto a new foundation, and as you noted, make other changes in the interest of Conservation as well. The plan is to keep the first floor footprint and renovate it, and upgrade and renovate the second floor. They don't like what they call the 1 current "Lego" structure; they want more of a Cape look which they feel is more historically accurate, so the majority of the alterations will be to the second floor. There will be substantial change to the second floor, which is reflected in the elevation they shared. Hope that helps! Lisa From: Bob Kelley [mailto:bk.bassriver@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:50 PM To: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman armouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park Attention!: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless you are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. Lisa I have added an "attachment 3" to the document. I have no evidence of a building as early as 1910, but I don't doubt it. My question really is, are the new owners just ripping down the house because they believe it to be outdated? I understand pillars are being added to the new structure to guard against flooding, and other conservation steps being taken. There is no justification listed for replacing the house. Regards, Bob From: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@varmouth.ma.us> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:48 AM To: 'Bob Kelley' <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Subject: RE: 50 Park That makes total sense From: Bob Kelley [mailto:bk.bassriver mail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:39 AM To: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park Attention!: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless you are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. I mis-assessed on my previous email. I believe there "could" have been a house on the premises of 50 Park Avenue in 1923 when Edith A. Sprague bought the property from Makepeace. The reason I state this is because why would a woman from Plymouth buy a piece of property in a developed residential area that has no dwelling on it, or would buy it with the intention of building a dwelling, as a second home. Regards, Bob 2 Sherman, Lisa From: Bob Kelley <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:50 PM To: Sherman, Lisa Subject: RE: 50 Park Attachments: Document Plan B246.827.pdf, 50 Park Avenue Deed search.docx Attention!: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless you are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. Lisa I have added an "attachment 3" to the document. I have no evidence of a building as early as 1910, but I don't doubt it. My question really is, are the new owners just ripping down the house because they believe it to be outdated? I understand pillars are being added to the new structure to guard against flooding, and other conservation steps being taken. There is no justification listed for replacing the house. Regards, Bob From: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:48 AM To: 'Bob Kelley' <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Subject: RE: 50 Park That makes total sense From: Bob Kelley [mailto:bk.bassriver@gmail.coml Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:39 AM To: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman armouth.ma.us> Subject: RE: 50 Park Attention!: This email originates outside of the organization. Do not open attachments or click links unless YOU are sure this email is from a known sender and you know the content is safe. Call the sender to verify if unsure. Otherwise delete this email. I mis-assessed on my previous email. I believe there "could" have been a house on the premises of 50 Park Avenue in 1923 when Edith A. Sprague bought the property from Makepeace. The reason I state this is because why would a woman from Plymouth buy a piece of property in a developed residential area that has no dwelling on it, or would buy it with the intention of building a dwelling, as a second home. Regards, Bob From: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 9:49 AM To: Bob Kelley (bk.bassriver@gmail.com) <bk.bassriver@gmail.com> Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us> Subject: 50 Park ! got a note from the owner of 50 Park asking for an update; have you had the opportunity to do any research yet on that property? Thanks Bob! Lisa Lisa Sherman Office Administrator Old Kings Highway Committee/Yarmouth Historical Commission Town of Yarmouth 508-398-2231, ext. 1292 Isherman@Varmouth.ma.us %~,47VcgywU71% ,,�,' OF61"It�T4�AL OF FO;'jAL` �CJaD1C9�9e6J O FNO y j A L O FN�OT A L AKY Yid DAY VIEW CgllkbLRRY 0 CrAxOCRRr <0. a ® ae y •� '� NOH OR Yp�W Luv Pat/�NacuN i.ROCKrJt 4 Wm F. 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