HomeMy WebLinkAbout33 Pleasant St Updated plans for YHC 3.2.22Greene, Karen
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Sherman, Lisa
Subject:
FW: 33 Pleasant Street
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kgreene@varmouth.ma.us
508-398-2231 x1278
From: Greene, Karen
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:34 PM
To:'Trevor Meyer' <tmeyer@meyerandsons.com>
Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us>; jesse@pitchpinebuilding.com; Sears, Tim <tsears@yarmouth.ma.us>
Subject: RE: 33 Pleasant Street
Hi Trevor/Jesse
I am trying to get the Item on the YHC's agenda for 3/10. 1 think that what Jesse has put together in his email below
should be helpful to the Commission. I understand that what is being proposed for an end product has not changed, but
also understand that some updated plans are required by the Building Department. Ideally, these would be in hand
before the Commission meets. I will follow up with you both as soon as the meeting date is confirmed. Hopefully
tomorrow.
Best regards,
Karen
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kgreene@yarmouth.ma.us
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From: Trevor Meyer fmailto:tmever@meverandsons.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 1:14 PM
To: Greene, Karen <KGreene@yarmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@varmouth-ma.us>; iesse@pitchpinebuilding.com
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Street
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Karen,
Just touching base to see if you had returned to the office and if you were able to touch base with the chairman
of historic, has a date been set to have a discussion about our project?
Thank you,
Trevor Meyer, Principal
Meyer and Sons Builders, Inc.
852 Main St, West Dennis, MA 02670
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:08 AM Jesse Connell <'esse itch inebuildin .co> wrote:
Hi Karen,
Thanks for the follow up email this morning. I appreciate your attention to this matter. I am hopeful that we
can all come to a quick resolution.
I just wanted to reiterate what Trevor wrote in his email since it was I who worked with Joseph Dick on these
plans for nearly three years. The plans that are on file and were previously approved show all the
planned/proposed final details in regards to siding, trim, windows, and doors. We are NOT changing any of
those details. It has always been my goal to bring this historic home back to life and complete a renovation that
flows seamlessly into the historic structure on the left that is not being disturbed in this project. To give a little
context, we bought this house in 2016 and have completed significant improvements to the existing left
structure while maintaining historical significance. We replaced the roof shingles, repointed the three
chimney's, replaced all the siding with new Boral true bevel siding to match the previous look and reveal,
replaced 28 windows with new Marvin replacement windows that matched the look and style of the previous
windows, while re -wiring the whole house to get rid of the knob and tube wiring. While designing this current
renovation, we planned on using the same siding as we previously used, the same windows as we previously
installed, and matching the details of the existing casing and cornice work. The current plans accurately show
what we are planning to do. In fact, we have saved and plan to reuse the old porch columns and
railings/balusters that were previously buried behind Anderson casement windows and T-111 plywood siding
from the 1990's. What we are building is more accurately in line with what was originally built than what we
had a just few months ago.
The only thing that has changed is how the middle section of the house will be framed and supported. This
change means that we added a total of 5% more in structural demo than we originally planned (25% to 30%).
The approved plans called for working with the existing front/rear wall framing and first floor joists but that
was deemed unworkable given the lack of any foundation whatsoever and framing spacing that could not
support a second floor as planned. We now have a crawl space foundation where there was none and we are
adding new floor framing to the first floor of the middle section as well as a new front and rear wall in that
middle section. If we kept what was there, we would have had to sister so many new framing members to the
existing that they existing would be unrecognizable. During the construction process so far, we have followed
all the building codes and PASSED all our on -site inspections for the footing, foundation, water proofing and
backfill by the yarmouth building inspector. Again, the yarmouth historic department nor the cape cod historic
commission need to worry that any historic elements will be lost in this build. We are planning to build what
was approved. The relief we are seeking has nothing to do with the final look of the home. We are seeking to
move forward with our original plan with an update to the STRUCTURAL details involved in the build. Also,
the footprint has not changed. The new crawlspace foundation is exactly where we have it drawn on the current
plans and survey. It is reasonable for us to revise the structural framing plan to show this change in work and
that is what we plan on doing and resubmitting. This revision will be added to the current plans on file. This
revision is structural only. It will show the new crawl space foundation where there previously was none and
show two new framed walls and a new floor system on the first floor. This framing will match what was
already approved for the right side of the project.
In regards to protecting the existing structure.... what was demo'd doesn't affect the previously approved plan.
That portion of the house gets tied in the same way as it did before. We have been painstakingly repainting and
updating that portion of the house over the last five years and it will be tied in same as before. However, the
longer this drags out, the longer my home is exposed to the elements and potential for animals crawling under
the existing home or worse inviting someone to break in to an unoccupied home.
In closing, we regret taking down the two first floor walls in the middle section of the home, however it was
deemed a safety concern as it was not supported at all like we thought. We cannot go back and put it back but
what is there now gives this home an opportunity to last significantly longer than it would have. I grew up on
the bass river and I have seen home after home get torn down and completely rebuilt (especially on the water).
I am trying to maintain the historical significance of this home and stay true to its roots. I do not feel what was
removed affects the overall goal of the project. I have support from all my neighbors and they are eager and
excited for this to be done. Five years ago, they had vacant and overgrown home in disrepair. I bought it with
intention of giving it new life and to provide a haven for my for kids to enjoy their childhood on the Cape. I
would appreciate a speedy resolution to this matter so that we can continue with the project. If anyone wants to
talk about this over the phone, please call me at 240-417-4943.
Thanks
Jesse, Kristen, Owen, Zoe, Violet, and Benji Connell
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:00 AM Trevor Meyer <tme er me erandsons.com> wrote:
Karen,
I think there is misunderstanding when it comes what the look of what this center section is to become when it
is re -constructed.
It is to look exactly as its represented in the plans dated that are previously approved. The details on the plans
are representative of the finished product. The existing porch columns are going to be maintained, and the
railing are to be maintained.
The plans that you have on file, are the only plan set that needs to be reviewed, they show the details of the
porch, they show the columns, they show the railings, they show the trim details, they show the window
details. I don't believe any new plans will show a better representation of our goal to mimic all the existing
details of the previous structure, than what you have already. New trim on the porch, new windows, decking,
and sidewall for the middle section were always part of the original plan to complete.
To reiterate, the only changes being made from was originally approved is: new foundation to support this
section, new framing of a floor system, and 2 new walls on the first floor middle section. We are only talking
about framing and a foundation for the middle section that is in question.
We can draft a letter per your request, but would like to know when this matter can be scheduled for a hearing
seeing that the plan set is already on file.
You can call me if we need to clear up any of this confusion, we are ready at a moments notice, and the board
convenience to appear and move this project forward.
Thank you,
Trevor Meyer, Principal
Meyer and Sons Builders, Inc.
852 Main St West Dennis MA 02670
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On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:27 AM Greene, Karen <KGreeneayarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Trevor/Jesse-
Wondering when you will be able to have new plans done? The Historical commission will need to review the revised
plans (showing all new construction rather than just second floor alterations) and determine whether the you will
adequately replicate the materials and details that were lost and whether the remaining historic structure will be
adequately protected during the work. You should submit a letter and plans to show how they will address these
concerns. Once this material is submitted we can move forward scheduling a meeting. Let me know if you have a
feel for when you'll be able to submit this information and we will wor with the Chair to schedule a meeting.
Thanks,
Karen
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kgreene@varmouth.ma.us
508-398-2231 x1278
From: Sears, Tim
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 8:33 AM
To:'Trevor Meyer' <tmeyer@meyeran dsons.com>; Greene, Karen <KGreene armouth.ma.us>
Cc: iesse@pitchpinebuildine.com; Grylls, Mark <mervlls@varmouth.ma.us>
Subject: RE: 33 Pleasant Street
Trevor,
You updated plans are required per the building code. These plans will need approval from the Historical
Commission. The determination as to whether you can continue work will require input from the Commission.
Regards,
Timothy Sears CBO
Deputy Building Commissioner
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext. 1259
mailto:tsears@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Trevor Meyerlmailto:tmeyer@meyerandsons.com]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 9:30 AM
To: Greene, Karen <KGreene@varmouth.ma.us>
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Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Street
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Karen,
Thank you for the reply.
We look forward to hearing from you this week regarding the proposed hearing date. We fully intend on
Sketching up the revisions on the plans and submitting to the building department for their files.
I believe the only outstanding item that we have at this point, which has been a discussion topic at this point,
is whether or not building Right hand side of the building, which previously approved and permitted falls
under this review? If it doesn't would it be safe to say that we can continue the build out of this portion of
the house as it's not under the review of the board and previously approved by the building department?
As it likely you are off today with the holiday, and it would be my assumption that this question would be
deferred to the building department (Tim Sears) - we do hope that you weigh and consider labor shortages
and timelines associated with this matter. It becoming more and more difficult to find good help and projects
like these keep our employees and dependable subs going in. We respectfully request being granted the
ability to move forward with the portion of the building that does not fall under the re -review of the Historic
board, while the determination is made on the middle section.
Thank you,
Trevor Meyer, Principal
Meyer and Sons Builders, Inc.
852 Main St, West Dennis, MA 02670
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RE Sales # 9575525
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HIC #187252
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 4:35 PM Greene, Karen <KGreene(c,yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Hi Jesse/Trevor-
I wanted to let you know that we have not yet set a date for the Historical Commission to meet on 33
Pleasant Street. I have provided some background to Sarah Korjeff from the Cape Cod Commission and
expect to touch base with her some time next week. I did let the Historical Commission know we had
touched base and that you were eager to move forward. Related, my understanding is that the Building
Department will require a new set of plans reflecting the revised scope of work. I've copied Tim Sears
from the Building Department on this message in case you want to follow up with him
I will keep you posted on the meeting schedule.
Best regards,
Karen
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Sent:
Wednesday, March 2, 2022 11:53 AM
To:
'Julie Mockabee'
Cc:
Sherman, Lisa
Subject:
FW: 33 Pleasant Street
Response from Sarah. Please note I included in my previous email to you the information Sarah notes as missing (2019
summary). Note also, I've forwarded the same to her.
Thanks,
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kereene@varmouth.ma.us
508-398-2231 x1278
From: Sarah Korjeff [mailto:skorjeff@capecodcommission.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 5:42 PM
To: Greene, Karen <KGreene@yarmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us>; Sears, Tim <tsears@yarmouth.ma.us>; Chloe Schaefer
<chloe.schaefer@capecodcommission.org>; Jordan Velozo<jordan.velozo@capecodcommission.org>
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Street
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Hi Karen,
think you may have omitted the 2019 materials in what you sent, but I think I have a pretty good
understanding of the project. Based on the photographs submitted, it looks like there was historic material
lost when they demolished the middle section. I am always skeptical of determinations that an area is "unsafe
and needs to be demolished." I have seen many cases where additional bracing or supports are added to the
existing frame while still keeping the original materials that hold the building's history. I suspect that the
middle section of this building could have been addressed that way.
At this point, I think it makes sense for the Historical Commission to review the revised plans (showing all new
construction rather than just second floor alterations) and determine whether the applicant will adequately
replicate the materials and details that were lost and whether the remaining historic structure will be
adequately protected during the work. The applicant should submit a letter and plans to show how they will
address these concerns. I would not recommend allowing work on the right hand part of the building while
the middle is being reviewed because it could limit the board's decision options. In addition, it seems
appropriate to create a disincentive to demolish areas that were intended to be preserved.
The Historical Commission has the right to refer this project to the Cape Cod Commission for DRI review, but
our review in this case would likely not require anything beyond what I described above. Since our review
thresholds are cumulative, any additional work proposed on the historic building could trigger Cape Cod
Commission review.
Let me know if you'd like to discuss this further.
Sincerely,
Sarah
Sarah Korjeff
�`1 Planner it (Historic Preservation Specialist)
C� , Cape Cod Commission
1:Apt.4.s'V 508-744-1215
CXMf.FS0, skorjeff@capecodcommission.org
From: Greene, Karen <KGreene@yarmouth.ma.us>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 4:36 PM
To: Sarah Korjeff <skorleff@capecodcommission_ore>
Cc: Sherman, Lisa <LSherman@yarmouth.ma.us>; Sears, Tim <tsears@varmouth.ma.us>
Subject: 33 Pleasant Street
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Hi Sarah
Regarding the above, I'm attaching some history (apologies for the large file) that shows the evolution of the project
from the historical commission's pov—the original 2019 review, the fall 2021 inquiry/floor area calculations, and the
most current information following the stop work order. The following is a link to the building department's laserfiche
records:
https:llif.yarmouth.ma.uslWebLinklDocView.aspx?id=1627286&dbld=0&repo=LASERFICHE
Also, I just spoke with the owner (Jesse Connell) who would ideally like to be able to continue working on the "right"
side while the "middle" is discussed. Thoughts?
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kgreene@yarmouth.ma.us
508-398-2231 x1278
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Greene, Karen
From: Justin Vuono <jvu ono@ meyera nd sons. com >
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:26 AM
To: Greene, Karen
Cc: Trevor Meyer, Danielle Robertson
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Health sign off OK
Attachments: 33 pleasant condition-1 jpg; 33 pleasant condition-3 jpg; 33 pleasant condition-2 jpg;
33 Pleasant Street Plans -DEMO Relief.pdf; 33 pleasant demo calculations.png
Hi Karen,
We need to bring the project located at 33 Pleasant back before the Commission in lieu of the unforeseen circumstances that forced us
to remove 480 square feet of the first floor, which we originally intended to save. After a partial demo, a structural assessment by the
engineer of record indicated that a new foundation would be necessary to support a new second floor. Given the liability concerns of
leaving an unsafe structure erected until we received approval, we felt it to be in the best interest of all parties to remove the
compromised structure.
Attached are pictures to show the degraded structural integrity of the building that forced us to remove the structure, rather than build
on top.
With the understanding that the Commission threshold is 25%, we would like to request a relief of 5,95%, noting that the 480 sq' area
we were forced to replace consists of only structural flaming: floor structure and framing of 2 exterior walls. The original proposal
intended to remove all siding trim and replace with new - all trim details are already part of the previous approval and the increased
square footage will not change the appearance in any way from the previous approved plan. The historical character details that are the
primary focus of the Board's interest will be maintained during the rebuild, nonetheless the substructure/framing of 3 walls and a floor
system is what we are actually asking for relief.
I've attached the previous plans highlighting the area containing the additional 480 sq' in question as well as the revised calculation
sheet.
Let me know if you need anything else on this.
Thank you,
Justin
Justin Vuono
01)erations ,,Vanager
Ale yer and Sons Builders. Inc
P: 917.538.4469
Email: ivuono@meyerandsons.com
On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 10:21 AM Justin Vuono <'vuono me erandsons.com> wrote:
Hi Karen,
Trevor mentioned he spoke to you yesterday regarding the 33 Pleasant St. project. I'm gathering the details for
you and should have it all over to you shortly. Is there any way you can get us on the Historic agenda for
tomorrow's meeting?
Thanks,
Justin
On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 1:02 PM Greene, Karen <KGreene&armouth.ma.us> wrote:
HI Justin
Thank you for providing the plans. I met this morning with Tim Sears and we confirmed that they are consistent with
the plans reviewed by the Yarmouth Historic Commission back in 2019. With the Historic Commission's determination
and the plans confirming less than 2S% of the floor area being impacted, you are good to go from my perspective.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best regards,
Karenh
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kgreeneyarmouth.ma.us
508-398-2231 x1278
From: Justin Vuono[mailto:lvuono@meyerandsons.com]
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 1:23 PM
To: Greene, Karen <KGeeene@varmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Sears, Tim <tsears@varmouth.ma.us>; Old Kings Highway <okh@varmouth.ma.us>; Trevor Meyer
<tmeyer@meyerandsons. com>
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Health sign off OK
Hi Karen,
We've reviewed the demo in more detail to be certain the calculations are accurate. Attached you will find the
proposed plans with demo areas highlighted in red as well as a breakout of the calculations supporting the
23% (actually 22.85% including porch).
Please Note that all areas being demo'd are being replaced in -kind.
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else.
Thanks,
Justin
Justin Vuono
Operations Manager
Meyer and Sons, Inc
"your project is our reputation"
P: 917.538.4469
Email: ivuono@mexerandsons.com
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 2:39 PM Greene, Karen <KGreene(g-)yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Hi Justin
Do you have a floor plan or other documentation to backup the 23% figure? 25% is a CC Commission threshold that
we need to be able to back up.
Thanks,
Karen
Karen M. Greene, Director of Community Development
Town of Yarmouth
kgreene@yarmouth.ma.us
508-398-2231 x1278
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From: Justin Vuono[mailto:ivuono@meyerandsons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 12:27 PM
To: Sears, Tim <tsears@yarmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Old Kings Highway <okh armouth.ma.us>; Trevor Meyer <tmeyer@meyerandsons.com>
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Health sign off OK
Hi Tim,
I have it at 23%
Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
Justin
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 2:17 PM Sears, Tim <tsears@,yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Justin,
I need to know if the demolition portion of the project is greater than 25% of the gross floor area.
Thankyou
Timothy Sears CBO
Deputy Building Commissioner
Town of Yarmouth
508-398-2231 Ext. 1259
mailto:tsears@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Meyer and Sons [mailto:info@meyerandsons.coml
Sent: Friday, September 24, 20219:11 AM
To: Sears, Tim <tsears@varmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Grylls, Mark <merylls@varmouth.ma.us>; Old Kings Highway <okh@yarmouth.maus>
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Health sign off OK
Thanks for the heads up Tim. Please keep us posted.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 12:02 PM Sears, Tim <tsears@yarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Justin,
This house is located in the South Yarmouth Historic District, and there is a letter from the historic committee
approving the proposed work from a couple of years ago.
Some of those properties fall under the Cape Cod Commission, and we are waiting to hear back from them about
this location.
Regards,
Timothy Sears CBO
Deputy Building Commissioner
Town of Yarmouth
1.711:NUI- ►d► 1I;r.M KT-I
mailto:tsears@yarmouth.ma.us
From: Justin Vuono[maiito:ivuonoCa?meyerandsons.coml
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:47 AM
To: Murphy, Bruce <BMurphv@varmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Meyer and Sons <info@meyerandsons.com>; Slack, Christine <CSlack@yarmouth.ma.us>; Fallon, Rosa
<rfalion eyarmouth.ma.us>; Sears, Tim <tsears@yarmouth.ma.us>; Trevor Meyer <tmeyer@meverandsons.com>;
Grylls, Mark <m Its armouth.ma.us>
Subject: Re: 33 Pleasant Health sign off OK
Thank you Bruce!
Tim, please let me know if you need anything else from us for the Building permit.
Best,
Justin
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 10:39 AM Murphy, Bruce <BMurphy cayarmouth.ma.us> wrote:
Hi
Application and revised floor plans of existing and proposed -received on September 22, 2021 has been signed
and I brought to the building office this morning.
House to remain 9 bedrooms as noted on application.
Bruce G. Murphy
Dir of Health
9/23/21
From: Meyer and Sons [mailto:info@meyerandsons.coml
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021131 PM
To: Murphy, Bruce <BMurphy@yarmouth.ma.us>; Slack, Christine <CSlack@yarmouth.ma.us>
Cc: Fallon, Rosa <rfallon@yarmouth.ma.us>; Sears, Tim <tsears armouth.ma.us>; Trevor Meyer
<tmever@meverandsons.com>; Justin Vuono <ivuono@meverandsons.com>
Subject: 33 Pleasant Health sign off
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