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Home My WebLink About2009 Aug 29, Sep 02, 03 - Emails from B. Moran, R. Lawton, P. Johnson-Staub, J. Brandolini Peter: Page 1 of 4 Murphy, Bruce From: Johnson-Staub, Peter Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:15 PM To: Brandolini, Jim; Armentrout, Jim Cc: Murphy, Bruce Subject: RE: Bass River Grille seating - building code Jim, Thank you, that is very helpfull Could you please put the into from your two messages together and submit it to Mr. Moran either via email or letter? Moran's email addresses are at the bottom of this email chain. Thanks, Peter Peter K. Johnson-Staub Assistant Town Administrator Town of Yarmouth 1146 Route 28 South Yarmouth, MA 02664-4492 V: (508) 398-2231 x 270 F: (508) 398-2365 From: Brandolini, Jim Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 1:00 PM To: Armentrout, ]im; 7ohnson-Staub, Peter Cc: Murphy, Bruce Subject: FW: Bass River Grille seating - building code Based on the floor plan provided the net square footage is 885 sq. ft. (1134 sq. ft. less 249 sq. ft of bar area estimated). Depending on the floor plan layout I estimate the following: -12 bar stools or bar standees plus 56 persons at tables and chairs= 68 people -12 bar stools or bar standees plus 70 standees elsewhere, plus 42 at tables and chairs=124 people -12 bar stools or bar standees plus any combination of standees and or tables/chairs elsewhere. These are hypothetical numbers based on raw square footage. The final layouts and ultimate occupancies will have to be predicated on the "paths of travel" to the exit doors and clear paths at the doors, but as you can see there are several formulas to determine the occupancy, depending on the ultimate desired, logical and code compliant floor plans. Jim From: Brandolini, ]im Se�t: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:43 AM To: Johnson-Staub, Peter Cc: Armentrout, Jim Subject: RE: Bass River Grille seating - building code Peter: I don't have the square footage on file to base an estimate on. However, I have called Jim A for the dimensions of the area in question. 9/3/2008 Peter: Page 2 of 4 In the mean time, please be advised that Building Code Table 1008.1.2 provides the following prescriptive formulas for assembly use, without fixed seats: 3 sq. ft per person for standees -7 sq. ft. per person for chairs -15 sq. ft per person for tables& chairs The total number would be predicated on a floor plan depicting proposed layouts. The total occupancy is then determined by the egress elements such as door widths as set forth in Table 10092, i.e. 36 inch door widths could accommodate up to 180 people. However, I don't believe the area less the bar service area and seating arrangements could accommodate this number. Based on the numbers we have previously discussed, the egress elements are sufficient. Jim From: Johnson-Staub, Peter Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:15 PM To: Brandolini, Jim Cc: Armentrout, Jim Subject: FW: Bass River Grille seating - building code Jim B.: I want to nail down the occupancy limit of the Bass River Clubhouse dining room per building code. You indicated that the calculation is a factor of square footage. Do we know the square footage of the dining area and the resulting limit per code. I understand that the limit on persons who can be served food and beverage may be less per health codes but I'd like to answer each questions specifically to eliminate any confusion. Also, we are contemplating a future upgrade of the septic system and we need to know the indoor capacity to determine the cosUbenefit of such an upgrade. Jim A. may have info on the square footage of the dining area. Peter Peter K. Johnson-Staub Assistant Town Administrator Town of Yarmouth 1146 Route 28 South Yarmouth, MA 02664�492 V: (508) 398-2231 x 270 F: (508) 398-2365 From: Johnson-Staub, Peter Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 5:10 PM To: Bill Moran (fedresource@comcast.net); bmoran@prscapecod.com Cc: Armentrout, Jim; Murphy, Bruce; Lawton, Robert; Hill, Linda; Brandolini, ]im; Hewins, Ron Subject: F1N: seating Mr. Moran: 1 met with Jim Armentrout and Health Director Bruce Murphy this afternoon to discuss present capacity limitations for the Bass River food and beverage concession as well as future plans for the facility. We also conferred briefly with Town Administrator Robert Lawton. At the wnclusion of the meeting, Mr. Armentrout went to see you with the intent to move the rope boundary for the outdoor'take out area' (expanding it to the area for which the Golf employees previously installed a stockade fence) and removing tables and chairs from the area that does not have a hard, washable surtace. Mr. Armentrout reports that you became uncooperative when he indicated that seating would not be permitted beyond the concrete patio and that you refused to speak 9/3/2008 Peter: Page 3 of 4 with him about it in a calm and professional manner. You then called to speak to the Town Administrator and he referred you to me. Realizing that this matter is time sensitive, I can offer the following information today: • The indoor seating capacity for the Bass River Grille dining area is 62 seats without entertainment and 46 with entertainment pursuant to the Entertainment License approved by the Board of Health and Building Office. This capacity is greater than what you requested under your liquor license but given that the higher amount complies with Health and Building regulations you may presently have 62 seats without entertainment and 46 seats with entertainment. Upon submission to the Building and Health offces of a new seating plan, it is possible that this limit on indoor seating might be raised. • The liquor license as amended by the Board of Selectmen vote of 8/26/2008 does not place a restriction on seating. You should have received a hand delivered copy of the amended license earlier this week but I will fax a copy to you just to be sure that you have it. • The present limits on outdoor seating are twofold: 1) Based on the Health Director's understanding of the historic use of the clubhouse food and beverage concession, the number of seats -- indoors and outdoors combined —may not exceed 100. Given that your present seating plan shows 62 seats indoors, you may have up to 38 seats outdoors. The Health Director will further research the historic use of the property based on the information you provided below which may cause this number to be reduced by 12. 2)All outdoor seating that is to be used for consumption of food and beverages must be on a hard, washable surface. . The Health Director has indicated that 4 chairs, such as the white Adirondack chairs, can be kept on the grassy area within a defined boundary that are intended to be used for sitting or smoking but not for consumption of food and beverage. • i cannot site the specific regulations that apply today but I will ask the Health Director and Building Commissioner to forward those to your attention next week. Respectfully, Peter K. Johnson-Staub Assistant Town Administrator Town of Yarmouth 1146 Route 28 South Yarmouth, MA 02664-4492 V: (508) 398-2231 x 270 F: (508) 398-2365 From: Lawton, Robert Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:47 PM To: ]ohnson-Staub, Peter Subject: FW: seating Peter: I assume that you will answer this after your meeting with Jim and Bruce. Please give a copy to Linda H. for her record. Thanks, Bob Bob From: Bill Moran [mailto:bmoran@prscapecod.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:52 PM To: Armentrout, Jim; Brandolini, ]im; Hill, Linda; Hewins, Ron; Lawton, Robert; Murphy, Bruce Subject: seating It is my understanding from Bruce Murphy that the#24 is historic and the calculation is 4 picnic tables X 6 seats per table. For the record there is were only 2 picnic tables, each with 6 seats. Utilizing Mr. Murphy's calculations would leave us with 12 seats. 9/3/2008 Peter: Page 4 of 4 It is my understanding from Jim Armentrout that the patio azea that was defined prior to my public hearing(regarding the transfer of the liquor license) is going to fenced-in by the end of the day. It is my understanding that the occupancy level inside states 73. lt is my understanding that the liquor license reads dining service for 45. It is my understanding that the liquor license does not state the number of occupants on the patio. It is my understanding that the liquor license was "administratively"conected at the last selectmen's meeting. However, I have no conespondence regazding what was corrected and what it was changed to. This is what I think I understand. Would you please conect, clarify and/or confittn. Time is of the essence! Seats Inside Seating Allowed # Explanation as to regulating authoriTy and/or where the number w/Entertainment is derived and/or written Inside Seating wo/Entertainment # Explanation as to regulating authority and/or where the number is derived and/or written Patio Seating # Explanation as to regulating authority and/or where the number is derived and/or written Would also like a defmition of"cafe seating". Thank you for your immediate attention as this is d'uectly affecting my business,business plan and bottomline. 9/3/2008